foreigners foul their own nest, greedy foreigners and paradise lost

[yabs]

you are not fouling?
sure about this
quote " if we can get more foreigners here maybe we can get a girlie bar"
How sad is that
I live here because there are not any girlie bars
If you want girlie bars go to pattaya or angeles
I have never complained about the locals
I complained about a groupo of outside guests numbering in the low 20's using the swimming pool of an expensive resort i Thpought would be exclusive
it just so happens they were Philipinos
they could have been martians
the point is not the nationa;laity but the number of outside guests

[Kinhason2]

Originally Posted by Timn8ter

The one beneficial bit from this thread is a reality check for foreigners. I know how easy it is to fall under the spell of the Philippines and get your head filled with ideas of the easy life in paradise.
The reality is, if you don't have enough money to live on it's better to wait for your move until you do. Living in the Philippines is great if you have money but far from paradise if you don't.
Enjoy your visit and live the dream for a while but take a long, long, hard look at the reality of living in a developing country before leaving your comfortable Western existence.

I agree with you 100% Timn8ter.

[yabs]

well put Tim
and thats exactly my point
many arrive and give up all ie sell house etc to live in paradise only to find out said money is not enough and then they ahve to open a bar or
a website to stay "retired"

[daffs]

Originally Posted by Kinhason2

I agree with you 100% Timn8ter.

i also agree,, I can live in my own country and enjoy the paradise of what foreighners think about philippines, but I have to go out and earn money because living there and work there is not enough to have a life like you are in a paradise.

[Arie]

tbh yabs it sounds a bit like you are annoyed by certain ppl and the place is developing (in the wrong way?)

But the last part is reality likely in all places of the world, population increases and mobility as well, in fact it seems like the whole world is on the move these days.

To victimize the local population in this situation does not seem very constructive (sounds a bit xenophobic) as far as I know Negros and Dumaguete are deemed by the filipino goverment as econmic development areas or something. Also to counter everybody huddling together in Manila.

I am sure many of the locals would prefer to stay in Dumaguete if there where jobs.

I for one heard in Manila about the place not on the internet and to find information about even basic stuff in the filipines sucks (unlike all kind of touristic stuff).

Can't really blame ppl to move somewhere else in the worl and work localy (and it can't be helped a certain percentage are assholes maybe).

[yabs]

I am referring to foreigners only here

[Arie]

Originally Posted by yabs

I am referring to foreigners only here

But foreign investment and tourism is promoted by the region, foreign investment is usually acompanied by foreigners working where they invest (few ppl just drop their money in another country and than piss off hoping it will make a profit).

Fouling their own nest is just a human habit, look at a place like white beach many places just selfdestruct and it is up to the local (politicians) to keep it all balanced and serve long time interest of the area.

[yabs]

money will always be put before th envt
always will be
look at what has happened with borocay
the point is the world will get ruined
in the future 50 years I wager there will be no beach left that has not becomne like borocay but the point is why accelerate the progress/destruction of places like this website

[Arie]

Originally Posted by yabs

money will always be put before th envt
always will be
look at what has happened with borocay
the point is the world will get ruined
in the future 50 years I wager there will be no beach left that has not becomne like borocay but the point is why accelerate the progress/destruction of places like this website

yeah I had a look back at your first post but is it a bit like pissing against the wind, the trend is that ppl travel more and easier relocate, at best you can try to influence the kind of ppl that settle and the kind of development an area aspires

[Mam A]

Thanks to this forum I am learning many things. Toppings are the mild verbal squabs and "attacks" -- not altogether on the negative side of side effects. Mind you, the intrigue dosage also helps the forum to keep it alive and attractive.

AND NO. Blame is not on the forum or on anyone if bad feelings are really personal.

Adults make choices and they will have to live with their choices. When mature adults make mistakes or when their choices sour up, that they'll have to live with or take as opportunities to look for the better options.

Mistakes by locals and foreigners, by me! are doors to the hunt for what's better. Not to be bitter. Take a walk [a choice], breathe the natural fresh air [a choice]at a clean beach [a choice], and just simply know that life can be as simple as we would choose it to be.

Dumaguete is not a place for everyone. Only for those who like it.