foreigners foul their own nest, greedy foreigners and paradise lost

[tanjames_ph]

Originally Posted by Union Jack

I've noticed a lack of respect, bad manners and an idiotic superiority attitude by many foreigners in the Phils... Us foreigners tend to forget we are guests in the Phils and should be treating the locals with the upmost respect and not like little people or whores!

It's nice of you to point this out. Although it's true that a lot of the locals actually make their living from the tourism industry, and that some locals are willing to put up with foreigners/customers who treat the locals like [insert your favorite derogatory term here], I would think that there are limits to the amount of disrespect that anyone would be willing to receive, be it from a foreigner or a non-Dumaguete-born Filipino tourist.

I work in an office. Basically, I let my boss pay for my time and body so that I would do things that I normally wouldn't do if I were not being paid for it. This includes being humiliated and being called stupid when I do something that is not to the exact desires of my boss. In this context, I often compare myself to a whore. Then again, there are certain limits to the amount of humiliation and/or disrespect that I am willing to accept, and there are things that I absolutely will not do (for the amount of money that I get paid).

We all would probably allow a neighbor to have his dog take a dump on our lawns a few times. But after one dump too many, we would all get to that tipping point and do something either to the dog or even to the neighbor.

One particularly nice thing I saw in Dumaguete -- the foreigners (at least those that I met) have a healthy respect for the locals, and the locals appreciate the foreigners not only for the business that they bring but also for their contribution to society. That wonderful balance does not happen in every city in the Philippines. It would be to your advantage to police your own, to make sure that your own backyards are clean, and to make sure that anybody coming to your neighborhood knows the "rules" of proper conduct (that which everybody should have learned in kindergarten). Dumaguete can be your paradise playground, but you have to help keep it that way.

And this goes to everybody else out there who, like me, wish they were there living with you in your beautiful Dumaguete wonderland!

[Union Jack]

Originally Posted by tanjames_ph

It's nice of you to point this out. Although it's true that a lot of the locals actually make their living from the tourism industry, and that some locals are willing to put up with foreigners/customers who treat the locals like [insert your favorite derogatory term here], I would think that there are limits to the amount of disrespect that anyone would be willing to receive, be it from a foreigner or a non-Dumaguete-born Filipino tourists.

It had to be said. You got to show respect to be respected, especially when not in your home and country. Many foreigners are good people, I must add, happily married with a local and fully integrated in the pilipino society. Then you get the idiots that with their behaviour give a bad reputation to us all.
Money is the source of all sins. I'm not a church goer and I'm not naive, some of the locals have also to take the blame for accepting this behaviour as something that comes with the job, some others just milk the foreigner for as much cash as possible.......money is the source of all sins!
But who am I to judge, when you got bills to pay, children to feed and to school........Only wish that all foreigners, me included, give a little more thought about it. I would hate to see Dumaguete turning into a Pattaya or Olongapo. By the way, before you ask, never been in those places, but their reputation precedes them.

[john boy]

Originally Posted by Union Jack

Hello Yabs, a little bird told me you are into drilling for natural resources, such as gas and petroleum....is it enviromentally friendly?
Or is it the case of do what I say and not what I do?
I tell you what I do not really like........
I've noticed a lack of respect, bad manners and an idiotic superiority attitude by many foreigners in the Phils and that is why I do not frequent many of the bars alongside the Rizal Boulevard when in Dumaguete, because I do not want to be associated with them. Us foreigners tend to forget we are guests in the Phils and should be treating the locals with the upmost respect and not like little people or whores!

Well it must be said Yabs has opened a Hornets Nest of a topic
But I agree with Union Jack you show respect you get respect
why would anybody choose to visit or live in a place without doing their homework first ?
To do that in this day and age you take a look at the websites available
keep smiling

[yabs]

always the same excuse
we are just "informing"
well get this even retarded Chavs can use the internet these days
and seeing as DI appears top of any list in google fro many things related to the Phils (your own doing) anyone looking for info on the phils maybe looking to go to scuzzy Angeles may end up seeing dumaguete and thinking he may giveit a try so you end up with angeles sleaze bags in my neck of the woods
exactly the sort of people and tourist i was hoping to escape by living in Dumaguete.
it already attracts that type\
met a fellow brit in why not
when I asked him what he was doing in Dumaguete he said he
was "on the piss"
great now we have the sort that usually go for a two week holiday to phuket or Majorca coming to dumaguete again exactky the type of person i was trying to get away from. Any information posted on the WWW is a dangerous thing

[Rhoody]

google searches:

Angeles Philippines

scuzzy Angeles

nah we don't show up...
better check things first and use brain (is there some?)before talking

next answer here

[Timn8ter]

The second bit of conspicuous worth from this thread is learning a Brit slang word. That's about it though.

Chav is almost certainly from the Romany word for a child, chavi, recorded from the middle of the nineteenth century. We know it was being used as a term of address to an adult man a little later in the century, but it hasn’t often been recorded in print since and its derivative chav is new to most people.

Other terms for the class also have Romany connections; another is charver, Romany for prostitute. Yet another is the deeply insulting pikey, presumably from the Kentish dialect term for gypsy that was borrowed from turnpike, so a person who travels the roads.

Did chavi die out, only to be reinvented recently? That seems hardly likely from the written and anecdotal evidence, and many correspondents report that it is well known to them as a spoken term in various parts of the country; what we’re seeing is a term that has been in active but inconspicuous use for the last 150 years suddenly bursting out into wider popular use in a new sense through circumstances we don’t fully understand.

World Wide Words: Chav

[jimeve]

OMG its YABS

[barramac]

yabs
i am with u yabs, the pre-internet days were unbelievable, the finest, so cool - for all the youngones out there u will never know what u missed, great days.

it is all Bob Dole's fault first he invented the internets to pollute dumaguete with residents and now he invented global warming, to ruin dumaguete's environment

love where your ideas are going ,together we should move to a secret location and set up a 1994 society. or we could go to Amish town Pennsylvania and party like it is 1799. stagnation is our destiny, yeah, ban the new year and bob dole.

1994 what a year, your should have been in dumaguete, it was unbelievable, as cher sang "you can turn back time, just takes some whining about a subject that you have no control over"

1799 New Dumaguete, roll with the Amish - Mennonite united alliance of New Dumaguete.

the book/movie "the beach" about this topic was dreadful

"digital we say sun dial"

[Rhoody]

...hmmm Yabster's amish paradise... guess you are not that wrong

[Arie]

Originally Posted by yabs

always the same excuse
we are just "informing"
well get this even retarded Chavs can use the internet these days
and seeing as DI appears top of any list in google fro many things related to the Phils (your own doing) anyone looking for info on the phils maybe looking to go to scuzzy Angeles may end up seeing dumaguete and thinking he may giveit a try so you end up with angeles sleaze bags in my neck of the woods
exactly the sort of people and tourist i was hoping to escape by living in Dumaguete.
it already attracts that type\
met a fellow brit in why not
when I asked him what he was doing in Dumaguete he said he
was "on the piss"
great now we have the sort that usually go for a two week holiday to phuket or Majorca coming to dumaguete again exactky the type of person i was trying to get away from. Any information posted on the WWW is a dangerous thing

These brits are all over the world Amsterdam is infested by these ppl, next thing you will get the russians (who drive me mad here). I still believe thought that the only thing to is to make the place more attractive to different ppl. I don't want to sound elitist but filipines is pretty one sided and if not for family connections I doubt I would give it much thought, sure nice nature, friendly ppl.

But there are loads of places in Europe that have a better climate, interesting historic buildings, great nature, better infrastructure, better security, better and more divers entertainment and more culture.

The only thing achieved by aproaching it so negative is that 'decent' people avoid the place and you end up with ppl who go whoring in the filipines (tbh I got nothing against whoring each their own thing).