foreigners foul their own nest, greedy foreigners and paradise lost

[Arie]

Originally Posted by yabs

always the same excuse
we are just "informing"
well get this even retarded Chavs can use the internet these days
and seeing as DI appears top of any list in google fro many things related to the Phils (your own doing) anyone looking for info on the phils maybe looking to go to scuzzy Angeles may end up seeing dumaguete and thinking he may giveit a try so you end up with angeles sleaze bags in my neck of the woods
exactly the sort of people and tourist i was hoping to escape by living in Dumaguete.
it already attracts that type\
met a fellow brit in why not
when I asked him what he was doing in Dumaguete he said he
was "on the piss"
great now we have the sort that usually go for a two week holiday to phuket or Majorca coming to dumaguete again exactky the type of person i was trying to get away from. Any information posted on the WWW is a dangerous thing

These brits are all over the world Amsterdam is infested by these ppl, next thing you will get the russians (who drive me mad here). I still believe thought that the only thing to is to make the place more attractive to different ppl. I don't want to sound elitist but filipines is pretty one sided and if not for family connections I doubt I would give it much thought, sure nice nature, friendly ppl.

But there are loads of places in Europe that have a better climate, interesting historic buildings, great nature, better infrastructure, better security, better and more divers entertainment and more culture.

The only thing achieved by aproaching it so negative is that 'decent' people avoid the place and you end up with ppl who go whoring in the filipines (tbh I got nothing against whoring each their own thing).

[Timn8ter]

As long as one group of people perceives another as being "lower class" the abuse humans foist upon each other will persist. This includes elitism, racism, nationalism, religion and tribalism.
(edit: and sexism)

[Kenny]

Originally Posted by Timn8ter

As long as one group of people perceives another as being "lower class" the abuse humans foist upon each other will persist. This includes elitism, racism, nationalism, religion and tribalism.

Well said.

Kenny

[Arie]

Originally Posted by Timn8ter

As long as one group of people perceives another as being "lower class" the abuse humans foist upon each other will persist. This includes elitism, racism, nationalism, religion and tribalism.
(edit: and sexism)

Certainly it is a bit of touchy subject in that respect, but tbh I do not have problems with ppl about class, the bottom line is respect for your suroundings and a bit of interest in the ppl around you.

I live in the middle of Amsterdam center and I am open to anybody and everybody should have their fun, just that ppl who just come for whoring and getting drunk tend to have zero respect for the place and zero interest (although often you can past that if you try). And sooner than later that reflects on all visitors and it reflects on the whole group. Most Brits who live here are a whole different ballgame and are embarrased to hell but any place should resist getting overrun by these types, it they got some serious impact on the quality of live.

[john boy]

Arie....This is a quick reply because my previous attempts seem to log out
Will just say this
24/7 drinking, Brothel's Drug Cafes attract certain types
thanks.....john

[yabs]

rhoody
i like the beard it suits me

[Arie]

Originally Posted by john boy

Arie....This is a quick reply because my previous attempts seem to log out
Will just say this
24/7 drinking, Brothel's Drug Cafes attract certain types
thanks.....john

'Sadly' there is not 24/7 drinking and stoned ppl don't make a fuss

I don't deny there is a cause and effect it just accentuates that it is better to avoid creating an enviorment that draws ppl with certain interest if you want to live somewhere.

In respons to Yabs argument not to promote a good place since it polutes and leads to visitors and settlers it seems better to try to influence why ppl want to come (diving, beach, nature, pleasent city with facilities etc.).

[john boy]

[quote=Arie;25851]'Sadly' there is not 24/7 drinking and stoned ppl don't make a fuss

That is until they become "Sadly" schizophrenic, proven fact
As for promoting a place to attract tourist, therefore jobs etc, I am all for that.

The point I tried yesterday to make also, was Not all Brit's seek the same pleasures, just the same as a Dutchman Filipino or Russian for that matter.

just my two cents/ sorry pence

[Arie]

[quote=john boy;25872]

Originally Posted by Arie

'Sadly' there is not 24/7 drinking and stoned ppl don't make a fuss

That is until they become "Sadly" schizophrenic, proven fact
As for promoting a place to attract tourist, therefore jobs etc, I am all for that.

The point I tried yesterday to make also, was Not all Brit's seek the same pleasures, just the same as a Dutchman Filipino or Russian for that matter.

just my two cents/ sorry pence

a ok I just refered to the 'chavs' remark earlier

anyhow this discussion is going nowhere and I am finished with it, live and let live and peace for all

[babel-fish]

I retired here in the Philippines 8 years ago, I have no business and not money driven and I am glad that ex-pats do start businesses here as their business tend to be much better than the local citizens ones. Normal these ex-pats invest their life savings to start nice restraunts and bars. People like me spend most of our pensions here.

Ex-pats bring in billions of Peso's into this country I alone bring in 1 million plus each year every centavo helps the local economy. We provide jobs and help local business survive.

Of course tourism brings in its problems in Asia, the sex tourist being the worst offenders. Those dirty old men with their strings of young girls or gays or young boys that sit at the local clubs and bars getting drunk each day. Of course you have something to be annoyed about.

When a guy comes here marries a Filipina and raises a family trying to live a moral life, he has every right to start a legally based business so that he can stay with his family and enjoy family life.

I myself came here to retire early at 54 and my income being a military pension and a war pension. I wanted to paint sea and landscapes and write it was more important than seeking a partner for sex or to earn money. I have succeeded in fullfilling my dreams.

It would seem your dreams have not been fulfilled and you could be somewhat jealous of those that have successful businesses earning more than you can achieve.

My advice is be happy with little you have got and value those you love around you. Live and let live