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Old 11-21-2008, 11:41 AM
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Well, as per the news tonight we have managed to beat Indonesia yet again, as the most corrupt nation in South East Asia. (I'm hopefully presuming No.1 in "Sa Mundo", only means S.E.Asia, but I think after having worked 2 years in South America, unfortunately, it doesn't.)
Additionally, 7 out of 10 Businesspersons/Filipino's do not trust the government or any of it's departments, I wonder how many expats have more faith? Probably, even fewer.
If I had only one wish for this country, my adopted home for over 20 years, I think I would vote to the expose all the "dross" we have working for local and national government. 'Tis a shame, we will never have a voice......
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Sadly tho' once you do trust your government, next thing you know you're having to endure martial law. But the Philippines are filled with more wonderful true people than corrupt ones. It all begins in our homes with the teaching of our little ones...by example. I have learned that our kids will do half the good we do and twice as much as the bad things we do! Truly, we cannot let our guard down especially when our kids are watching seeing how we react to any situation. My Dad always said "Son, you can always tell the size of a person, by the size of the things that make them mad!" I used to get sooooo angry at this little white golf ball!! heheheh, but I've changed! And all the good people reading this awesome forum hear what I say now...We need more good kids in the world so go get "busy" and produce more good kids!! God bless and Be well,
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The most corrupt nations in there order of corruption.
1# Iceland
11# United Kingdom
17# United States
125# Philippines
141# Indonesia

This is why expats have hope it is far less corruption here in the Philippines than in our own countries. 1 to 160 is the list


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LONDON -- The Philippines is perceived to be among the most corrupt countries in the world, according to a watchdog.

Based on the annual Corruption Perceptions Index by Transparency International released Wednesday, the Philippines ranks 131st out of the 180 nations studied, with a 2.5 rating, along with Burundi, Honduras, Iran, Libya, Nepal, and Yemen.

The index score relates to perceptions of the degree of corruption as seen by business people and country analysts and ranges between zero, which is highly corrupt, and 10, which is very clean.

In the top 10 of the least corrupt countries are: Denmark, Finland, and New Zealand, with a 9.4 rating, at no. 1; Singapore and Sweden, 9.3, no. 4; Iceland, 9.2, no. 6; Netherlands and Switzerland, 9.0, no. 7; Canada and Norway, 8.7, no. 9.

Others ranked accordingly are:

11. Australia 8.6; 12. Luxembourg and Britain, 8.4; 14. Hong Kong, 8.3; 15. Austria 8.1; 16. Germany 7.8; 17. Ireland and Japan, 7.5; 19. France 7.3; 20. USA, 7.2; 21. Belgium 7.1; 22. Chile 7.0; 23. Barbados 6.9; 24. Saint Lucia, 6.8; 25. Spain and Uruguay, 6.7; 27. Slovenia 6.6; 28. Estonia and Portugal, 6.5; 30. Israel 6.1; 30. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 6.1; 32. Qatar, 6.0; 33. Malta, 5.8; 34. Macao, Taiwan, and the United Arab Emirates, 5.7; 37. Dominica 5.6; 38. Botswana 5.4; 39. Cyprus and Hungary 5.3; 41. Czech Republic and Italy, 5.2; 43. Malaysia, South Africa, South Korea, 5.1; 46. Bahrain 5.0, Bhutan, Costa Rica 5.0; 49. Cape Verde, Slovakia 4.9; 51. Latvia, Lithuania, 4.8; 53. Jordan, Mauritius, Oman 4.7; 56. Greece 4.6; 57. Namibia, Samoa, Seychelles 4.5; 60. Kuwait, 4.3; 61. Cuba, Poland 4.2, Tunisia 4.2; 64. Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey 4.1; 67. El Salvador 4.0; 68. Colombia 3.8; 69. Ghana and Romania 3.7; 71. Senegal 3.6;

72. Brazil, China, India, Mexico, Morocco, Peru 3.5, Suriname; 79. Georgia, Grenada, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Trinidad and Tobago 3.4; 84. Bosnia and Hercegovina, Gabon, Jamaica, Kiribati, Lesotho, Macedonia, Maldives, Montenegro, Swaziland, 3.3; 84. Thailand 3.3; 94. Madagascar, Panama, Sri Lanka, Tanzania; 98. Vanuatu 3.1; 99. Algeria, Armenia, Belize, Dominican Republic, Lebanon, Mongolia 3.0; 105. Albania, Argentina, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Djibouti, Egypt 2.9; 111. Eritrea, Guatemala, Moldova, Mozambique, Rwanda, Solomon Islands, Uganda, 2.8; 118. Benin, Malawi, Mali, Sao Tome and Principe, Ukraine 2.7; 123. Comoros, Guyana, Mauritania, Nicaragua, Niger, East Timor, Vietnam, Zambia 2.6;

131. Burundi, Honduras, Iran, Libya, Nepal, Philippines, Yemen 2.5; 138. Cameroon, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Paraguay, Syria 2.4; 143. Gambia, Indonesia, Russia, Togo 2.3; 147. Angola, Guinea-Bissau, Nigeria 2.2; 150. Azerbaijan, Belarus, Republic of Congo, Ivory Coast, Ecuador, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Tajikistan, Zimbabwe 2.1; 162. Bangladesh, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Papua New Guinea, Turkmenistan, Venezuela 2.0; 168. Democratic Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Guinea, Laos 1.9; 172. Afghanistan, Chad, Sudan 1.8; 175. Tonga, Uzbekistan 1.7; 177. Haiti 1.6; 178. Iraq, 1.5; 179. Myanmar, Somalia 1.4
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The most corrupt nations in there order of corruption.
1# Iceland
11# United Kingdom
17# United States
125# Philippines
141# Indonesia

This is why expats have hope it is far less corruption here in the Philippines than in our own countries. 1 to 160 is the list


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With the least number being the least corrupt ascending to the greatest number being the most corrupt country. To set the record straight Iceland is the least corrupt country being #1 and Indonesia #141 is more corrupt.
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I noticed that a little late it didn't really say when I saw the list. but yes I was wrong. Sorry about that.
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Having worked in quite a few of the countries in the lower quarter of the table, I'd say that the poll was pretty close to what I've experienced too.
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It's called the asian way. In Indonesia years ago they used to post the suggested "commission" on the wall of govt. agencies. Very convenient. Other places the most difficult thing to figure out was the correct amount to pay. Life was easier then. I recently got my Philippine drivers license and it was a real hassle. I got my first Philippine license in Manila in 1979. I paid a fixer and went and drank beer for an hour. No problems new license delivered. A few years later you had to actually show up to get your picture taken; quite an imposition. Today you have to do the whole thing and ,do you know, I haven't seen any improvement in the driving. I for one miss the good old days.
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It's called the asian way. In Indonesia years ago they used to post the suggested "commission" on the wall of govt. agencies. Very convenient. Other places the most difficult thing to figure out was the correct amount to pay. Life was easier then. I for one miss the good old days.
Absolutely, 100% behind you. Try getting a business permit nowadays, without a "voluntary contribution" whilst visiting for example, our "beloved" municipal health departments, fire departments, municipal engineers etc etc! Put the "correct" amount of money into the cans on their desks and just see how fast they sign the compliance certification!
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