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Old 09-18-2008, 12:11 AM
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I'm sure this won't finish with my reaction. But I will finish to react on your comments in this thread. Otherwise I loose my stinging tentacles
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Even after many times (by many members) asking to behave normal and to stop his arrogancy, he continued.
Babel (fish), if you want to know my name, rank and number (for what purpose, my dear ?) look on my profile. I did not see more info on your profile.
No member has done that yet, proof please?

If being arrogant is because I differ in view, well I must declare myself as arrogant. I have always notice that declaration is always offered in frustration when a proper argument can be given. Pulling the person down and then pure character assassination, tut tut tut

Lose your temper and you lose the argument.

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Old 09-18-2008, 12:16 AM
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You are complaining about how Filipinos deal or approach you. Why? Do you Englishmen treat Filipinos and other asians in your country with utmost respect and courtesy?
Yes I do, in fact everybody with the same courtesy I am certainly not a nationalist and many of my best friends are muslims and black people (colored to be political correct) of whom most filipinos look down on and don't say they don't you would be lying. I hate racialism as much as I hate bad manners
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:29 AM
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Rude adults may actualize their rudeness without themselves realizing they are being rude. They might simply not know what's rude and what's not.
Please forgive them they know no better.

Perhaps its time for change, that the government ensure that good manners is taught to the children in MAPI? They are taught in my country and in fact if your not good mannered to teachers your put in your place.

The biggest entity of Asian are the chinese and they are well mannered I know enough of their language to realise that fact. Filipino's that have worked abroad are mostly good mannered.
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:04 AM
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Believe me I am not being critical in a sense of putting filipino's down, but in trying to show Filipino's a way to improve themselves for tourism and the business world. Manners and keeping a country and its waterway clean is the only way forward and a great way to help improve the economy. All these little things add up.

Critisim can be helpful.
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If you met me you would soon find I give respect and have very good manners. I however do not generise its how I see it. I am very well travelled, military and privately I can honestly say that this country is one of the worst mannered place I have ever lived in maybe its because I have learned to understand the language but I also know enough of other languages to understand politeness. Its only when english is spoken manners seem to apply.

The truth may hurt, but that is the truth how I see. But is this bad manners good for tourism?

You can pull me down as much as you like, but if you wish we will both walk around the city together and I will point out where good manners are not being used. Its a fact and one that can not be hidden. Lets do a survey and see what the percentages are of those that do not use manners and those that do. Better still do your own and you will be very disapointed.

Its something that I have learned to ignore and pity only.
No need to pull you down. Up, maybe. Walking side by side with you? a person, pointing everywhere at all time, seeing things as bad manners, would make me look like a guardian of someone who is insane. That is the truth, yeah it hurts. I pity you.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:12 PM
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Vast majority of Filipinos I've run into, in-country and overseas, have been very well mannered. In fact, in my opinion, well-mannered almost to a fault. Their kind nature lets others, particulary Arabs, take advantage of them. I have never been pushed, elbowed, shoved, etc in over thirty years of traveling to the Philippines....sometimes for months...Couldn't say that about 2 minutes in a bank queue in a Muslim country....Sorry...can't see the problem discussed here....For what it's worth, I find the UK probably the rudest country in Europe....and oddly, Germany the best mannered....Greece wouldn't be far behind....
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ermmmm Bable, can you just shut up if you have nothing to say....

Where is Melvin Tinklehopper when we need him... Rhoody or The Dane... please (good manners) bring him back
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:03 PM
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This thread strikes me odd because I haven't really noticed what the OP is commenting on. Aversion to waiting in queue is not unusual in Asia and is much worse in countries other than PI, especially that big one to the north. I find it hard to believe my experience is unique and most Filipinos come across more polite than Americans do. btw, The driving thing in congested areas is just part of life and doesn't bother me much.
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:00 AM
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I haven't had a lot of experience in Asia. The closest I have been (still trying to get to the Phils but moving is harder work than I thought and work is also keeping me busy) is a couple of China towns and hotspots for international tourists. I remember a few situations where a crowd of Asians would arrive and totally destroyed the concept of waiting in line for something.

Anyways, who says we have to wait in line? These places didn't have a "take a number" dispenser so I guess it was all fair game. Personally, I kind of like elbows. I was taller than the Asians surrounding me so I just played the game and found out I was quite good at it.

Babel, I think if you keep this up the moderators are going to change your name to babble. If you don't like the way you are treated in the Philippines (or this forum) there is always plan B... just leave.
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As a British man, I believe that very few people who have lived in the UK in recent decades would say that politeness is any longer prevalent there. The oh-so-polite British character is a bit of a myth. Perhaps we were like that in the 1950s, but not now. Personally I find Filipinos the friendliest people I have ever come across, and most are very polite.
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